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People complain about the Cubs having to sign "overpaid veteran free agents", and then turn around and think the Cubs being cheap in the draft or not drafting smartly is no big deal.
It doesn't have to be one or the other . We have found some of our best success in trading minor leaguers. We are fantastic at identifying and developing pitching talent. We just use that as our currency and trade for position players a couple years in the system. There seems to be more of a fall off with position players so why not let other teams absorb that loss of drafts.
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It doesn't have to be one or the other . We have found some of our best success in trading minor leaguers. We are fantastic at identifying and developing pitching talent. We just use that as our currency and trade for position players a couple years in the system. There seems to be more of a fall off with position players so why not let other teams absorb that loss of drafts.
The reason the farm system was rated so high was Cashner and Castro, both 4-star prospects. Now that both of them are at the MLB.

I agree with you on a couple counts lee, the Cubs shouldn't be scared of trading prospects, including Colvin and Vitters. However, if the Cubs don't have the impact minor leaguers because they were cheapskates on the draft, how they hell are they going to compete with Red Sox, Dodgers, Angels, Rangers, and other teams that have a lot more talent when there's bidding wars for guys like Adrian Gonzalez, etc.??? Teams don't want a bunch of mediocre, mid-level prospects for a guy like that. Besides, when was the last time the Cubs traded for a real impact bat??

Nomar??

The best way to ensure long-term success is through the draft. The Red Sox drafted a handful of guys who were first-round talent, but teams didn't want to spend money on them. Maybe the way the draft is set up sucks, but that's the way it is. The teams that know and are willing to take advantage of it by spending money are the ones who will reap the benefits down the road.

I'd rather the Cubs do everything advantageous to win.

I don't know, I'm just sick of hearing Ricketts and Hendry talk about winning, and then their actions fall far short of their words. Ricketts has said so much BS and done nothing, every little sign action like this I take for him not being truthful with the money situation.

Its more entertaining paying attention to the minor leagues at this point, as this organization has been run terribly the last year and a half and blew some chances to stay competitive the next 4-5 seasons.
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A quick, red flag, stat on the Cubs supposed future star 3B, and current declining prospect, Josh Vitters....

38 career walks, in 971 career minor league at bats....
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I think we are both headed in the same direction Bock . We are just differing on how to get there. You are expecting them to change what they have done and improve on the scouting and development of young position players right now.

Long term success of this team is properly identifying our strengths and weakness. It will lead to faster success if we build on our strength and use it to offset what we have failed at.

We have ignored our minors and used it to build a team to win now. We wasted time and assets to try to piece together what was seen as a flawed team. We have to let some of these bad contract expire and then our trades could be steered to improving our minors.

Before any of this can be achieved we need to find an identity for this club and then build toward that idea.

This takes us to Ricketts , I am beginning to have my doubts. He really needs to take charge of this team and be up front with more than buying beers in the bleachers or negotiating signage!
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Hayden Simpson has failed to progress past low A in two years with the team. I think we've seen what a real front office thinks of most of the cream of the the Hendry/Wilken era draft picks..Colvin, Cashner, Flaherty, Frenchy......gone.
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