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Old Dec 15th 2008, 3:28 pm
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Billy Beane knows baseball

Not sure if this thread is ok for this site because the article comes from ESPN.
Billy Beane the greatest GM in history is throwing 40 million at a guy. I think the Cubs really blew it. They should have gone after him . Billy Beane knows what he is doing that guy wins championships.

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With Rafael Furcal moving closer to making a decision on where to sign, the Oakland Athletics appear to be in the lead to sign the free-agent shortstop, with an offer of four years and $40 million, according to sources.

The Los Angeles Dodgers, who declined to offer Furcal arbitration earlier this month, have remained engaged but do not appear to be close to Oakland's proposal. The Kansas City Royals have interest and need but may not have the flexibility to make a deal. The Toronto Blue Jays have had interest -- and need -- in Furcal, but they have dropped out of the bidding entirely.

Earlier this month, the Athletics had offered about $9 million per year over a four-year deal for Furcal, but at that time, talks broke off; Furcal's side requested $13 million annually -- which was Furcal's salary last season -- over four years. But the market for shortstops, like the market for relievers and corner outfielders/designated hitters, seems to have been impacted by the number of teams that are either holding payrolls in place or making cuts in anticipation of the worsening economy.

If the Athletics land Furcal, he will likely hit at the top of what should be an improved Oakland lineup. Last month, the Athletics traded for All-Star left fielder Matt Holliday.

Furcal, 31, has missed 150 games over the last two seasons but makes an impact when he does play -- he batted .357, with a .439 on-base percentage, in 36 games for the Dodgers last season, after hitting .270 with 25 steals in 2007.

Buster Olney is a senior writer for ESPN The Magazine.
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the important thing is how he hits in the clutch and how many RBIs he has

His remaining 500 at-bats don't matter. Steve Stone and Mike Murphy said so.
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If we were going after Furcal I would not be well pleased. We have a cheap SS and Furcal isn't nearly enough of an upgrade over Theriot to be worth that much money.

I have nothing against Billy Beane... he is a smart cookie. But he's the GM of the A's, not the Cubs. These are two different clubs with different priorities.
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If we were going after Furcal I would not be well pleased. We have a cheap SS and Furcal isn't nearly enough of an upgrade over Theriot to be worth that much money.

I have nothing against Billy Beane... he is a smart cookie. But he's the GM of the A's, not the Cubs. These are two different clubs with different priorities.
Couldn't have said it better myself!
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But Bims Billy Beane is the greatest GM in baseball. If he does it everyone else should have seen his genius.
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But Bims Billy Beane is the greatest GM in baseball. If he does it everyone else should have seen his genius.
You do realize that you're starting to come off as borderline insane?
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If we were going after Furcal I would not be well pleased. We have a cheap SS and Furcal isn't nearly enough of an upgrade over Theriot to be worth that much money.

I have nothing against Billy Beane... he is a smart cookie. But he's the GM of the A's, not the Cubs. These are two different clubs with different priorities.
Plus I doubt if Lou could place him in the line up where he would be best.

I am serious , I am really doubting his performance last year. He was great up to Sept. , then he was quite questionable in some of his decisions.
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You do realize that you're starting to come off as borderline insane?
Why are you attacking me because I have an opinion? You must agree that if Billy is doing it must be a great move and the Cubs should have done the same thing. I mean Bill is the best GM in all of baseball with all his trophies lined up.
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Why are you attacking me because I have an opinion? You must agree that if Billy is doing it must be a great move and the Cubs should have done the same thing. I mean Bill is the best GM in all of baseball with all his trophies lined up.

You're being a tad forceful with your opinion (that Billy Beane is the greatest GM)... it is an opinion, not a fact. I'm not all that crazy about him, personally.
Billy knows baseball. He's smart. But the way he moves players, the way he wheels and deals... how would you feel about that if you were a player for the A's? If I was a player, I don't think I'd want to play for him.
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If I was a player, I don't think I'd want to play for him.
And Furcal apparently doesn't, either, as he is going to sign with the Braves.
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